Sunday, April 24, 2011

Vantage Point Consulting Inc (Columbus OH)

Beware of attractive, but possibly deceptive job ads which offer entry-level training in management, marketing, and sales especially if the ads state no experience required. If you decide to interview with such a company, ask many questions before accepting employment. Will you be paid minimum wage or commission? Are there company benefits?

If the job ad for entry-level training for sales, marketing, management "sounds too good to be true", be cautious and ask lots of questions during the job interview. Is the job door-to-door sales, commission only, and with no benefits?  Will you be an employee or a contractor? Outside sales require driving which means gasoline expense. Are you sure you really want to work on commission pay driving with no mileage reimbursement?

If you interview with this company and they invite you for the all-day second "interview", ask questions about it before you waste your time. Ask them whether you need to wear comfortable shoes.

Vantage Point Consulting
6230 Busch Blvd Suite 260
Columbus, OH 43229
(614) 885-6300
http://www.vantagepointconsulting.biz

Vantage Point Consulting has the same telephone number as Worldwide Marketing. worldwidemktg.com

http://www.facebook.com/VantagePointConsulting
Leading outsourced marketing firm in the Mid-West for Fortune 500 companies.

CareerBuilder.com, Vantage Point Consulting Jobs
Entry Level Sales & Marketing Rep Wanted ASAP!
Job Description
Vantage Point Consulting is hiring for entry level sales and marketing positions.  Successful candidates can grow to management. This job involves business to business or business to consumer in person sales to customers.

37 comments:

  1. I recently interviewed with Vantage Point there are benefits and paid training, and all expenses including gas hair clothes food is tax writable I'm going in for my first day tomorrow, so I guess I'll see how it goes I don't know if sales is the right career path for me :/

    email deniecegt@gmail.com

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  2. To save everyone the trouble of emailing me about this position in the future, the job is bogus! They HR reps lied, its crappy door to door sales, and ALL commission based. Don't waste your time

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  3. I wish I read this before I worked there. They were very crafty in saying everything a new hire wants to hear. They left out the part of going door to door in shady spots in Columbus. Do not pursue this job, you will be better off.

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  4. HOLY CRAP....I have a 10:15 appt...driving an hour for a "job interview" with them in the morning.... 07/17/2012

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  5. I worked for VPC for several weeks. It is a horrifying, disgusting company. The owner dropped out of college and impregnated a co-worker. Many of the employees are college drop-outs who cannot conduct coherent conversations. You are asked not to fraternize with co-workers, but it is not a coincidence that the recent promotions were given to women dating several of the most prominent male employees.

    It is entirely commission-based. You will be lucky if you see a portion of your money. During my interview, I was told I would receive a certain amount of money and benefits when I started. THERE IS NO PAID TRAINING. This obviously didn't happen.

    "Professionalism" is often promoted, but there was little to show. You will work six days a week and receive very little in return. You will make more money for your time working at a fast-food restaurant.

    Oddly, VPC is operated like a religious cult. "Pep meetings" take place each morning. There is rigorous dogma and a business liturgy. I kid you not. Too much time is spent with your co-workers. These people have no lives. If you do not enthrall yourself and sacrifice your own life, you will go nowhere in the company. RUN AWAY. DO NOT LOOK BACK. THERE IS A REASON THEIR BUSINESS IS IN A RUN-DOWN BUILDING IN COLUMBUS. Vantage Point Consulting is a SCAM. DO NOT BE FOOLED. I want to contact those I worked with and tell some of them to get out before it is too late.

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  6. Advantage Point Consulting is misleading and is a totally horrible p,ace to work! Not to mention, completely unethical and devious. Please done put yourself in the situation I have got myself in because I wanted a job and to be off of unemployment. Example...paid training- weekly, $10 gross and net $9.16
    Please don't put yourself in the position I am in....I lost my income and now I'm struggling emotionally as I'm having a very hard time supporting myself. Honesty is not their best policy, that's for sure!

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    1. I'm soo sad to hear about what happened to you. OMG! I "had" a "interview" with them tomorrow. Thank you I am NOT going anymore!! Sheesh these job interviewing tactics in 2012 are ratchet.

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  7. I went out on an interview with this company and had a great experience. The representative was very professional and respectful. She did tell me it was all commission and entry level door-to-door at the beginning, however there is a lot of personal and professional development they provide as well as you train and grow with the company. I have never worked on commission but I feel like I had such a great experience with the staff at Vantage Point that I'm going to give it a shot...I don't have anything to lose considering I have no experience at all. Plus the fact they are a member of the better business bureau and work with some of the largest companies in the world is good. I start on Monday. I will keep you guys posted.

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    1. Please read this carefully...Just because you have no experience is not an excuse to be taken advantage of and, of course you should STILL be PAID. Any company worth a grain of salt will give you at least $6 bucks an hour for your trouble. Going door to door is not safe even during the daylight (which is dimming due to seasons changing) and it may be against company policy to carry protection, as you should. Even if it is mace or pepper spray. I happen to know a lot about going door to door. I worked EXTENSIVELY on political campaigns for a non profit with an hourly wage. Get my drift? If you like the outdoors lots of political campaign jobs are available with hourly wages and you"ll have lots of stories to tell your grandchildren. Ps. What good is a BBC if you don't have a paycheck at the end of the week for all of your hard work?

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    2. Tim,

      How did the job work out? I am curious because I was offered position with them too but now after seeing some of these comments I am weary...

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    3. Anyone can be approved by the BBB. Being a memeber is not a criteria of a no rip off company!

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    4. FYI: The Better Business Bureau - Los Angeles Chapter, were kicked out because they were caught accepting bribes.
      http://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?post=4f8178da-5644-49e7-a7b3-4a0d205b70b2

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  8. OMG!!! I have a "job interview" tomorrow am 9:30 (Which I will not be attending)!! This is a hook up!! I ONCE fell for a "start up company" scam like this regretted it, and worked myself out of a job. The only good thing was I was not on unemployment at the time and the only reason I took the job was because I had a "blemished" record...I was beyond desperate. I am no longer "blemished" and now I have more job options so I know I can do much better! I'm really sad to read about the ppl on this blog who wasted time, money, & transportation. I think the blog creators are ingenious. I only found this site about four pages down from the company website. Thanks for Google because It was easy to find.

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  9. "Account Manager" is the position I was told I would be interviewing for tomorrow, I will not be showing. I'm too pregnant to do door-to-door, I wouldn't do it even if i wasn't lol! This company needs to be more up-front, i would have wasted gas, time, and energy!

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    1. IMHO...you made the right choice.

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  10. Just received a call from "Alli" of Vantage Point regarding a n Accounts Manager position. It was described as "customer service". When I questioned what exactly the company did, I was told that other companies outsourced their services and was informed that they were tasked to acquire new clients for AT&T. I told them that I knew nothing about Vantage and asked how they knew about me. I was told they received my resume from CareerBuilder. I have no record of applying for this position and told this to Alli. She replied that she would send me an email about the company. Well, she did and I did my research. Needless to say...I pass.

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  11. I see this is Vantage Point in Columbus Ohio, but I think Vantage Inc. in Los Angeles is also a scam. They posted a marketing representative job description on Career Builder that was vague and they called me in for a first interview, where they primarily emphasized money, flattery, and more vagueness. Then they called me for a second interview and told me to bring my passport, which seemed like an identity theft scam, since there's no reason they need my passport at this point in the process and the effusive flatter, vagueness, and emphasis on money without details screams "scam" to me. I do not intent to go to the second interview for this reason. I wonder if they rented out a fancy building in order to conduct this scam. Their building is across from the Howard Hughes Center on 6080 Center Dr. #600 and their website and Facebook is not explicit but merely is filled with inspirational dream quotes.

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  12. I had an interview scheduled for the 31 of December, I did not know that the company was closed on that day so when I drove up for my interview I was greeted to an empty office and a lot of wasted gas. Apparently their intern messed it up or so they say, but why would you want to work for company that wont even show up to an interview they scheduled. That company is a joke and a scam, dont let them waste any of your time

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  13. Wow! I have an interview Monday-I wont be going lol

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  14. The job is for door-to-door sales of AT&T products. This company is a joke - the "president" dropped out of community college so he decided to start his own business since he couldn't get a real job.
    Apparently while he was at this college they taught him to use Google, where he copied and pasted the BBB logo next to every Vantage Point Consulting sign.
    The application they give to you looks like it was created by a fifth grader who learned to randomly place the BBB logo on the page - they really love that logo. They must believe it makes them scream legitimacy.
    The office is sketchy and they have yachting magazines spread over the coffee table (trying to seem like a legitimate company) adjacent to a cheap flat screen TV. Yes, yachts. In Columbus, OH.
    I think they watched Parks and Rec and saw Aziz Ansari's lavish and failed business; they tried to replicate it, but the only thing they nailed was the failure part.
    It is fun to go and mess around with them in the interview though. Just seem like the worst employee ever: the sad part is, they'll actually call back, though they say they are "very selective."
    Vantage Point Consulting is the equivalent of Prestige Worldwide in Step Brothers, minus the decent singing and hilarity.

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  15. I was scheduled to interview earlier today. After reading the comments here, I decided not to go.

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  16. I was really skeptical when I applied for this job and had a phone call right after I had just applied. FIVE MINUTES! They wanted to immediately interview me tomorrow...

    I was really questioning it so I looked them up. All these reviews about them being a scam...sad =( Guess I gotta keep searching for that job fit for me.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH everyone for letting us know before we waste our time! Wonder if I should even bother and call to cancel now.

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  17. I have an interview in the am. I will go for at least the experience of interviewing!

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  18. I just got offered a position with them and accepted. The staff there seems super friendly and it seems like a company where you can advance pretty quickly. But now after reading these comments, I am really unsure what to do. If someone that actually worked with the company can email me and tell me their story it would really help me out to make the right choice... my email is abbypoorman@yahoo.com. Thanks!

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  19. PLEASE READ! I have recently quit working for vp, under sam hunter & I recommend anyone who is called for an interview or offered a position to decline... here is why, the "Office admins" calling you are actually recruiters for the company they lie about the position "brand manager" that they are trying to fill, they are looking to start people out as entry level door to door sales working on straight commission. They expect you to revolve your entire life around them and their company regardless of relationships, children, life events, or family. I was hired with them knowing I had a child, and they still expected me to be with them all the time, they do any office night weekly on thursday nights, told me we were going to a "kid friendly" place to only get there and find out EVERYONE including my co workers were drinking, getting drunk, and having a little to much fun than I am comfortable having my child around. They would bride me to do this, this, and this and they would reward me with some kind of alcholic beverage, reminder I lived a good distance away so they were giving us drinks and sending us home! We have had incidents where our salesman's checks would say one thing and another put into their bank account, we even had Holly - world wide marketing, manipulating coworkers. They have harrassed me, by stating to more than one employee that I stole from their company, when in fact I never took a thing, supposedly forgetting to email a confirmation email is stealing from their company.. The ass. manager Alicia is illegally married to stay in the United states as well as work for the company. She is going to be opening up her own office in the next month or so.. The place is a joke. They are thieves, liars, users, and worthless people. don't take an interview with this place, or a job.. you'll have better luck working for mcdonalds than you will vantage point consulting.

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  20. I was just contacted by a MAISAM, of Vantage Point Consulting, 614-885-6300. She said she found my resume on CareerBuilder. I have not used CareerBuilder for 8 months. I have been scammed before and I will not be taken advantage of again. PLEASE if they call you and offer a job to you, DO NOT accept. They LIE!!!! They offered me a Brand Management Position. I have family that lives in the Columbus area and they have heard terrible things about this company. Needless to say I will not be calling them. Also, shame on them for doing this to anybody especially this time of year.

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  21. This is a response to "previous employee" I want to apologize to vantage point for blogging about them, regardless of what my personal opinion is, there is opportunity if you work for them. If you are driven and want to go somewhere in life I suggest working for VP simply because the ones who want it get it once again I apologize for my blog.

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  22. I interviewed there in May I just came across this when a buddy of mine got the same call I did. It is a door to door cold call sales job the receptionist they had was nice and made my experience worth coming that's the only reason I came back for my second her personality made the company. Job is straight commission and you work 6 days a week if your young and have nothing better to do go for it if you are trying to support your family good luck working there.

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  23. Rebby Sutherland:
    • Has paid for 2 abortions in her offices (Could be more now)
    • Slept with Jimmy Rothermel, Ken Lear, Ed Cunliffe, over 10 of her own employees, etc…
    • Cydcor had to pay her bills, help her out because she couldn’t cut it in NYC
    • Told everyone that Kirk Bevington is an alcoholic.
    • Cocaine addicted
    • Jeremy Roubelet (Minnesota kid) won consistency manager of the year in 2012??? He had to get a loan from John Wiggins. Does this sound fair???
    • Europe?? WHEN THE *** are they going to Europe?? Also, they already HAVE b2b offices there.
    • When I started, Cydcor had under 300 offices. Its 2013, they still have under 300 offices. Is there any more growth??
    • “Get to 100 offices” – who has over 100?? John and Brandie. WOW, impressive. 100% not impressive.
    • The $3 million pot - the purpose is to keep offices around for a big pay day. It’s to help offices stay open since Cydcor isn’t growing
    • Cydcor – Canada. You guys get the shaft and it’s not fair. Jim Majeski was asked “why doesn’t Canada Promoting Owner get a car” Jims response: if they were relevant they could
    • Jim and Gary were never in the field, never knew how important this way. They look at it as a business and people like stock. They don’t care about you and anyone besides their profit. If they did, owners and reps would make more.
    • Retail will never work, Smart Circle will always be #1 in this space and Cydcor is wasting their time. Why are you still doing this???
    • Where are the clients??? They have had the same clients for 7, 8, 9, 10 years……
    • How many more owners can you CRAM in a small market due to lack of clients and lack of larger cities?
    • Why are clients using the smaller vendors and why is Cydcor losing market share?? Because Cydcor isn’t the best anymore and Cydcor has bullied people around for too long.
    • I have seen vendors open countries with a flick of a wrist, why hasn’t Cydcor?? No money?? No Clients?? No confidence?? No game?? Scared??
    • Why does Jaime Hepp have MORE MONEY than any consultant??


    Sexual misconduct:
    • Brandie and John Wiggins slept together back in the day (obviously)
    • Jim and Vera have had a divorce
    • Shaine Thurman cheated on his wife in Vegas
    • Ed Cunliffe cheated on his wife Vegas (massage parlor)
    • Pedro Segura cheated on his wife with one of my old owners
    • Wiggins, too many to list

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  24. So these so called "marketing" companies are nothing more than big orgys and alcoholics and drugs? Who wants to be a part of that. And paying for abortions is immoral can't take care of it don't sleep around the offices. These companies sound so trashy and sad they pray on innocent people. Grow up.

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  25. I am reading all this right after they called me and scheduled an interview..haha and I had another company just like them call me today too, walker marketing and solutions or something like that. What is up with all this bs and companies lying to get people in??? This should be illegal!! They told me I would be interviewing candidates and training..sounds like that position is a pyramid scam. But I will not do door to door. I am about to call them tell them they look like a joke, tell them about what I have read and ask them to stop lying to people..someone needs to stick up for us job-seekers!!!

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    1. I completely agree with you. This is so sad with today's economy people just want to make an honest living. But the managers don't Care since they take that chunk from YOUR hardwork. No thanks. I've worked there and witnessed how horrible it is. You have to devote all your time. And whole life. And if you do you will lose your family then when it happens they say oh you know it's never work there were problems before. NOT TRUE!!! Sad just sad. Dont go work there it's disgusting. Everyone sleeps with each other and drinks and parties. Everything involves alcohol. Save your time.

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  26. This is the reply interview confirmation I sent back to VP:
    I am excited to start a new career in marketing. I did a lot of research in preparation for my interview and thanks to you I was able to hone in on what is was I wanted to do with my new start. It looks like I am a brand manager by nature. Unfortunately I will not be brand managing with Vantage Point Consulting. Jobs, real jobs are hard to find and for some people there is a lot of logistics that go into making it to an interview. There's baby sitters and buses and unreliable cousins, probation and parole officers, child support, debt collectors all the while Christmas is looming. Then you show up in a monkey suit with champagne wishes and caviar dreams to be told its door to door selling AT&FnT U Verse. I could go on but what is the point. You look successful and what you do works for you and the few but I do not think we could swim in the same tank and for that reason, I'm out.

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  27. is there any one knows about Vantage INC ?
    http://thevantagecorp.com/about-us/

    Is this the same company as above ?

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  28. This has been very helpful. Thank you all for sharing your experiences!

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  29. I worked at Vantage Point Consulting for 4 months and I have to say I had a great experience. The managers have a combined 20 years of business experience, great mentorship, and coaching. Everyone was fun and helpful throughout the training process and I learned more in 4 months than I did the entire 4 years in college. Unfortunately, my wife and I had to relocate to another city and I had to quit. If your looking for an ambitious opportunity where you get paid what your worth and you can control your own promotions/raises then this is a great opportunity. However, if your looking for a 9-5 for the next 30 years it is not. Every company has pros and cons and yes I did get paid commission, and made great money working with one of the largest companies in the world (At&t). So I recommend if your looking for a job, go meet the company and come up with your own conclusion vs. reading some blog. :)

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  30. Thanks, to add a data point I got a call today for an interview tomorrow. I guess I'll be emailing them back to decline.

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